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romney, mr. turzai, mr. metcalfe and their friends will attempt to create confusion and chaos now that we beat this thing back. so we're going to be just as vigorous now as we have been. your prior guest on the prior segment talked about anger. let me tell you something, chris, there's a lot of angry voters in pennsylvania. mitt romney and todd corbett for this chicanery. they're going to have a conversation with them at the polls on november the 6th. >> let me ask you, kathy, why did this creep up on so many people? i have been making some noise about it, but this is like a multistate thing, something like 20 or 30 states involved in this, all basically pushed by the republicans, all pushed to stamping down on the chance of minority people and older people to vote. clearly partisan and ethnic in nature. here we are, i may be the only one on national television yelling about this thing, but it just seems -- as bill clinton said beautifully, it's blatant and yet nobody's been raising hell about it. >> that's
romney, mr. turzai, mr. metcalfe and their friends will attempt to create confusion and chaos now that we beat this thing back. so we're going to be just as vigorous now as we have been. your prior guest on the prior segment talked about anger. let me tell you something, chris, there's a lot of angry voters in pennsylvania. mitt romney and todd corbett for this chicanery. they're going to have a conversation with them at the polls on november the 6th. >> let me ask you, kathy, why did...
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so you went up against mitt romney and prepared the ads against mitt romney. what kind of guy, how do we deal with this guy? what do you predict we're looking at tomorrow night? >> listen, i have to say mitt romney has come a long way from those debates in 1994. he's a much better debater today. much more seasoned than when he was beginning his political career so many years ago. he's been in 20 presidential debates in this election cycle against republicans, some very high stakes. so, i think we'll see a mitt romney who's totally prepared. they've spent more time preparing for this debate, i think, than any candidate in history. and in 1988 i was the campaign manager for lloyd benson, and i saw senator benson go from someone who wasn't that good to being a great debater on the night he met dan quayle. we have to expect he'll be prepared and give a very good performance. >> will he have to give specifics? what will independents want to hear? >> well, you know, that's his problem. i mean, listen, this guy cannot defend the math of his proposals because in the m
so you went up against mitt romney and prepared the ads against mitt romney. what kind of guy, how do we deal with this guy? what do you predict we're looking at tomorrow night? >> listen, i have to say mitt romney has come a long way from those debates in 1994. he's a much better debater today. much more seasoned than when he was beginning his political career so many years ago. he's been in 20 presidential debates in this election cycle against republicans, some very high stakes. so, i...
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that's not mitt romney's view. i think it is difficult to sell his view to a majority of voters. >> we will see tomorrow how he explains that comment and his view for the rest of the country who do not make millions of dollars but certainly deserve a voice. thank you very much, roger. a pleasure having you on. the possible impact of the debates is part of the nbc news/"wall street journal" poll that debuts tonight on "nightly news." how important will the presidential debates be in helping you decide who to support for president? 38% said extremely, while the majority, 62%, said somewhat and not much. mark murray, is that in line with what we've seen when that question is posed before? >> it's an increase in the people that say it's important to them and their vote than we saw in 2004 and 2000. you could make the argument people are paying more attention to the debates than in the past. however, i would stress that 60%, 6 in 10 say this won't impact my vote that much. as we've seen in survey after survey, the numbe
that's not mitt romney's view. i think it is difficult to sell his view to a majority of voters. >> we will see tomorrow how he explains that comment and his view for the rest of the country who do not make millions of dollars but certainly deserve a voice. thank you very much, roger. a pleasure having you on. the possible impact of the debates is part of the nbc news/"wall street journal" poll that debuts tonight on "nightly news." how important will the presidential...
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mitt romney versus mitt romney. oh. and president obama will be there too. this conundrum of what we'll call the paradox of the mittens, dates back to 1994 when senator ted kennedy dropped this debate heat rock. >> on the question of the choice issue, i have supported the row v raid wade, i am pro choice, my opponent is multiple choice. >> so which bubble will the multiple choice candidate fill in on tomorrow night's test? which mitt will triumph on stage. even members of the conservative establishment aren't sure. bill o'reilly conceded mitt romney is a mystery man. >> people don't really know who mitt romney is. the pressure is on the governor. he has to come across as a regular guy, which i'm not sure he can do. >> true to form romney's policies remain veiled in the same cloud of mystery. his running mate paul ryan refused to say how much their tax cut would cost alleging it would take too long to get into all the math. congressman ryan defended that dodge yesterday. >> i didn't want to get into all the math of this because everybody would start changing
mitt romney versus mitt romney. oh. and president obama will be there too. this conundrum of what we'll call the paradox of the mittens, dates back to 1994 when senator ted kennedy dropped this debate heat rock. >> on the question of the choice issue, i have supported the row v raid wade, i am pro choice, my opponent is multiple choice. >> so which bubble will the multiple choice candidate fill in on tomorrow night's test? which mitt will triumph on stage. even members of the...
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romney wants to bolster that fence. the president supports the existing 649 fence plan from congress but faced criticism for saying it's basically complete when over 5% was done. a path to citizenship, the big issue, romney appears to support it in a 2006 interview. more recently, he opposed it calling president obama's path to citizenship an amnesty plan. supporters criticized the president for not pushing comprehensive reform when democrats controlled congress. finally, employer sanctions and fines, the president supports that. romney embraces e-verify which has a 95% accuracy rate of identifying unauthorized workers. >> i'm chris jansing. thomas roberts is up next. >>> good morning to you. the agenda next hour, great expectations. the 2012 presidential debate. mitt romney and president obama face off in denver tomorrow night. who will bring the rocky mountain highs and lows? and our panel power will weigh in on that. >>> both sides brought the heat last night in boston in the second senate debate between scott brown
romney wants to bolster that fence. the president supports the existing 649 fence plan from congress but faced criticism for saying it's basically complete when over 5% was done. a path to citizenship, the big issue, romney appears to support it in a 2006 interview. more recently, he opposed it calling president obama's path to citizenship an amnesty plan. supporters criticized the president for not pushing comprehensive reform when democrats controlled congress. finally, employer sanctions and...
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in the romney campaign. there hasn't been a lot of focus on what the president promised and where he fell short. i think certainly through the end of the debate season, there's going to be a huge focus on promises he made that he couldn't keep. whether it was immigration reform and his promise to tackle that right away. he didn't do it, never put a serious effort into it. his promise that health care would get more popular over time. in fact, it still remains a net unpopular with voters. and then also just the idea on the economy which we have heard a lot about that his policies would lower the unemployment rate below 8%. that didn't happen, it was a promise they made early on in the presidency and it's one no doubt you're going to hear a lot about tomorrow night. >> jim, is health care going to play heavy in these debates, do you think? is it something we're going to hear about? and how will mitt romney deal with it? he's had months and years you could argue to figure out his answer on it. how does he addre
in the romney campaign. there hasn't been a lot of focus on what the president promised and where he fell short. i think certainly through the end of the debate season, there's going to be a huge focus on promises he made that he couldn't keep. whether it was immigration reform and his promise to tackle that right away. he didn't do it, never put a serious effort into it. his promise that health care would get more popular over time. in fact, it still remains a net unpopular with voters. and...
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next president of the united states, governor mitt romney! >> last night romney who spent long hours preparing for tomorrow's debate said the stakes are greater than simply crowning a winner of the debate. >> people want to know who's going to win? who's going to score the punches and who's going to make the biggest difference and the arguments they make, and there's going to be all the scoring of winning and losing. you know, in my view, it's not so much winning and losing or even the people themselves, the president and myself. it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. >> the president meanwhile spent most of the day yesterday preparing for the debate. at his nevada campaign headquarters. taking a break to deliver pizza to one of the local campaign offices. he then started working the phones to thank volunteers. >> that was very nice, you know. you know, although basically they're keeping me indoors all the time. it's a drag. they'
next president of the united states, governor mitt romney! >> last night romney who spent long hours preparing for tomorrow's debate said the stakes are greater than simply crowning a winner of the debate. >> people want to know who's going to win? who's going to score the punches and who's going to make the biggest difference and the arguments they make, and there's going to be all the scoring of winning and losing. you know, in my view, it's not so much winning and losing or even...
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romney for president, i assume? >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different people. >> but you'd be a reliable ally when it comes to the economic plans? >> on his economic plan? you said there was no one i'd trust more than romney. >> a lot of people don't read the bills down there. >> his reluctance to pledge allegiance may have something to do with this. the two polls showing he who should not be named losing to president obama in massachusetts by 27 points and 28 points in the two latest polls. barney frank was at the debate. he joins us next. [ thunder crashes ] [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop pretending. only flood insurance covers floods. ♪ visit floodsmart.gov/pretend to learn your risk. >>> let me talk about mistakes. i made mistakes. i will make more mistake. before i got elected, i said my daughters are available
romney for president, i assume? >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different people. >> but you'd be a reliable ally when it comes to the economic plans? >> on his economic plan? you said there was no one i'd trust more than romney. >> a lot of people don't read the bills down there. >> his reluctance to pledge allegiance may have something to do with this. the two polls showing he who should not be named losing...
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>> for romney, i got one for romney which would be, you know -- for the president rather, your opponent says that he favored the kind of reorganization and bailout in bankruptcy that ultimately worked for the auto industry but with no public money. mr. president, was there private money available, and if there wasn't, what would have happened? >> thank you. >> i'm not jim lehrer, i'm not fair. >> that's really tough for obama. in other words, the other guy's -- i love these answers. thanks so much, bob shrum. i knew you wouldn't do this. joan, thanks so much. coming up -- yours at least was legitimate. >>> coming up, what can brown do for you? he's running for re-election up in ohio. but he's got karl rove money machine, whole money machine coming at him, and he's taking him on pretty well. he's doing well. we're going to learn something about winning in a good old state like ohio. >>> republicans have been searching without success over the country for voter fraud, and now they finally found it in their own campaign. the biggest case of alleged registration fraud in the country, and th
>> for romney, i got one for romney which would be, you know -- for the president rather, your opponent says that he favored the kind of reorganization and bailout in bankruptcy that ultimately worked for the auto industry but with no public money. mr. president, was there private money available, and if there wasn't, what would have happened? >> thank you. >> i'm not jim lehrer, i'm not fair. >> that's really tough for obama. in other words, the other guy's -- i love...
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mitt romney's 47% problem. on sunday, it was paul ryan's turn to try to defend this. >> there are 4% of the people >> and here is how paul ryan responded. >> in the course of those conversations you've admitted the campaign has made missteps. >> i think first of all 47%, mitt acknowledges that was an inarticulate way that mitt to describe what we're trying to do to create prosperity and upward mobility and reduce dependency by getting people off welfare and back to work. but at the end of the day the choice is really clear and we're giving people a clear choice. >> so, in talking about the romney campaign's missteps, paul ryan missteps by reminding everyone of the 47% misstep. joining me now is nia henderson "the washington post." chris wallace invited paul ryan to talk about the missteps. >> i didn't have any reason to go there. and from the romney campaign's perspective, they very much want to have a sort of hands-off approach to this 47% misstep, call it what you want. they're preparing to essentially say mi
mitt romney's 47% problem. on sunday, it was paul ryan's turn to try to defend this. >> there are 4% of the people >> and here is how paul ryan responded. >> in the course of those conversations you've admitted the campaign has made missteps. >> i think first of all 47%, mitt acknowledges that was an inarticulate way that mitt to describe what we're trying to do to create prosperity and upward mobility and reduce dependency by getting people off welfare and back to work....
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romney for president, i assume? >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different people. >> but you'd be a reliable ally when it comes to the economic plans? >> on his economic plan? you said there was no one i'd trust more than romney. >> a lot of people don't read the bills down there. >> his reluctance to pledge allegiance may have something to do with this. the two polls showing he who should not be named losing to president obama in massachusetts by 27 points and 28 points in the two latest polls. barney frank was at the debate. he joins us next. machine when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. yeah, i'm looking to save, but i'm
romney for president, i assume? >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different people. >> but you'd be a reliable ally when it comes to the economic plans? >> on his economic plan? you said there was no one i'd trust more than romney. >> a lot of people don't read the bills down there. >> his reluctance to pledge allegiance may have something to do with this. the two polls showing he who should not be named losing...
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romney for president, i assume? >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different people. >> but you'd be a reliable ally when it comes to the economic plans? >> on his economic plan? you said there was no one i'd trust more than romney. >> a lot of people don't read the bills down there. >> his reluctance to pledge allegiance may have something to do with this. the two polls showing he who should not be named losing to president obama in massachusetts by 27 points and 28 points in the two latest polls. barney frank was at the debate. he joins us next. [ male announcer ] for the dreamers... and those well grounded. for what's around this corner... and the next. there's cash flow options from pnc. solutions to help businesses like yours accelerate receivables, manage payments, and help ensure access to credit. because we know how important cash flow is to reaching your goals. pnc bank. for the achiever in you. is efficiently absorbed in small continuous amounts. citracal
romney for president, i assume? >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different people. >> but you'd be a reliable ally when it comes to the economic plans? >> on his economic plan? you said there was no one i'd trust more than romney. >> a lot of people don't read the bills down there. >> his reluctance to pledge allegiance may have something to do with this. the two polls showing he who should not be named losing...
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ck o romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? ♪ atmix of energies.ve the world needs a broader that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner electricity... that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal. and it's also why, with our partner in brazil, shell is producing ethanol - a biofuel made from renewable sugarcane. >>a minute, mom! let's broaden the world's energy mix. let's go. >>> here's what's happening. an american airlines flight to miami returned to jfk airport because seats became loose during the flight. the company will now reinspect eight plains. it the sebld time seats were found in the last few days. an amtrack hit a truck driver. the truck failed to yield and hit the train.
ck o romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? ♪ atmix of energies.ve the world needs a broader that's why...
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it's romney himself. i think in the debates romney has two big problems that he's got to try to overcome. one is mathematics. he's got to show what loophole he's going to close. the second is authenticity. he's got to show that authentically he's someone that cares about average working people. he hasn't done both. he's losing ground because of both problems. >> when you look at the new gallup poll, be for example, it shows that the majority of americans think that the president is a better candidate for the middle class. 53% for president obama, thinking he's better for the middle class. romney, 43. and then you go to the president, who will the president do more to favor? middle class, wealthy, 66% say middle class. 17% say wealthy. who will mitt romney do more to favor? 35% say middle class, 57% say wealthy. how does romney overcome this overwhelming view that he is going to serve the wealthy and he doesn't serve or care about the middle class? >> i think romney has to be able to be accessible, number
it's romney himself. i think in the debates romney has two big problems that he's got to try to overcome. one is mathematics. he's got to show what loophole he's going to close. the second is authenticity. he's got to show that authentically he's someone that cares about average working people. he hasn't done both. he's losing ground because of both problems. >> when you look at the new gallup poll, be for example, it shows that the majority of americans think that the president is a...
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romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? >>> new polling from some key midwestern battlegrounds. first to ohio. a newp pp poll, president obama's lead there is four points, 49 to 45. ppp tends to lean democratic but the new columbus dispatch poll shows the president with a lead more than twice as big. he's up nine in the newspaper poll. 51/42. in iowa, a new des moines register poll has the president up 49/45. that's been a tricky state, iowa. we'll be right back. hey. hey eddie. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too. [ sighs ] so how did it go? he's upset. [ male announcer ] spend less time at gas stations with best in clas
romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? >>> new polling from some key midwestern battlegrounds....
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romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise. let's get right to our panel this afternoon. with us from washington, msnbc political analyst karen finney, who is a democratic strategist. also julian epstein, who is a democratic strategist, and here in new york msnbc political analyst professor michael eric dyson. professor dyson, mitt romney's wife says she's concerned about his mental health. paul ryan says he's inarticulate. if he can't think straight and he can't speak properly, is mitt romney george bush in disguise? >> i'll tell what you. i want to give you the baseline, i don't ha
romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise. let's...
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do you this fellow romney? have you met romney? george romney? >> only casually. >>> 50 years ago, another romney was on the mind of the top democrat in the white house, and the clip you heard president kennedy is trying to gauge the political viability of mitt romney's father george romney. the conversation with douglas mccar thur was picked up by hidden microphones kennedy ordered installed in 1962. it's not clear why kennedy wanted his meetings and phone conversations recorded but we're left with hundreds of hours of secret discussions that lifted the veil on how president kennedy handled the crucial moments of his presidency. they are the subject of the new book "listening in the secret white house records of john f. kennedy." ted compiled the selections in this and joins us now. great to have you on set. >> thank you. >> an audio book and fascinating one at that. first and foremost we were talking about this during the break why the microphones everywhere? >> other presidents had taped conversations but to a smaller degree. fdr, truman and e
do you this fellow romney? have you met romney? george romney? >> only casually. >>> 50 years ago, another romney was on the mind of the top democrat in the white house, and the clip you heard president kennedy is trying to gauge the political viability of mitt romney's father george romney. the conversation with douglas mccar thur was picked up by hidden microphones kennedy ordered installed in 1962. it's not clear why kennedy wanted his meetings and phone conversations recorded...
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romney campaign is in now. but you can out-debate him. >> we go to kristen welker traveling with the president. we know that the president often has a pretty long day, long hours. news conferences. but how is the president trying to sharpen his message prior to wednesday? >> good morning, tom. i can tell you that's really one of the main goals of this debate camp here in nevada. the obama campaign trying to get the president to give shorter, sharper answers in part so that he can get all of this key points now. they say the president tends to be professorial sometimes. that's what they want to avoid. they want to give direct and crisp answers. also to avoid potentially looking condescending. that's one of the big things they're worried about here. so far president obama has had four mock debates with senator john kerry who is of course no stranger to presidential debates. he also i can tell you had one more practice session last night after president obama had a campaign event in las vegas. now, as you pointed
romney campaign is in now. but you can out-debate him. >> we go to kristen welker traveling with the president. we know that the president often has a pretty long day, long hours. news conferences. but how is the president trying to sharpen his message prior to wednesday? >> good morning, tom. i can tell you that's really one of the main goals of this debate camp here in nevada. the obama campaign trying to get the president to give shorter, sharper answers in part so that he can...
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mitt romney does not. the question becomes whether or not wednesday becomes a game changer for the senator. >> i have a theory when someone is on the verge of winning, we get into more battle dround state, not less states. >>> when we come back, we're going to talk more. trivia time. how many vice presidents served under more than one president? two. john calhoun served under both john quincy adams and andrew jackson. we'll be right back. [ humming ] [ humming ] [ male announcer ] kraft macaroni & cheese. you know you love it. >>> i think mitt romney is not in touch with the little guy. he's always been a supporter of big oil. he has friends in the big oil industry. that might be great for mitt romney and big oil, but try telling that to my kids. >> a half million dollar ad campaign bye for one state. it's airing in denver just two days before the first presidential debate. let's bring back our panel. colorado has been on the edge for awhile. it really hasn't moved dramatically the way the others have. whe
mitt romney does not. the question becomes whether or not wednesday becomes a game changer for the senator. >> i have a theory when someone is on the verge of winning, we get into more battle dround state, not less states. >>> when we come back, we're going to talk more. trivia time. how many vice presidents served under more than one president? two. john calhoun served under both john quincy adams and andrew jackson. we'll be right back. [ humming ] [ humming ] [ male announcer...
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romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. >> okay, now, you'll notice in both clips mitt looks just as goofy which caused me to react. some people heard romney. other people heard ryan. our clip from nbc, unfiltered, we ran it. politico heard ryan as well, and they report it had that way around 5:30 the afternoon of the event, which was what our staff followed. later "the new york times" wrote that the crowd was chanting "romney," then they followed with a correction that our staff read overnight saying kind of hard to follow what it was. this was among the chee-tos brigade as to whether i would vote for mitt romney, is trying to throw the election by filtering a tape and cracking a joke. really, guys? your conspiracy theories are getting out of hand, the poll con spercy, the fox news to throw the election for barack obama? it's getting out of hand. like this two-second frenzy is just silly. conservative blogger jazz shawl for hotair. too many people who are ostensibly fighting for the conservative cause have ch
romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. >> okay, now, you'll notice in both clips mitt looks just as goofy which caused me to react. some people heard romney. other people heard ryan. our clip from nbc, unfiltered, we ran it. politico heard ryan as well, and they report it had that way around 5:30 the afternoon of the event, which was what our staff followed. later "the new york times" wrote that the crowd was chanting "romney," then they followed with a correction...
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some romney advisers to keep the focus on the economy, some are saying romney should have a major foreign policy speech days after the debate. over the weekend, the white house was on the defensive after the friday's announcement that the deadly assault on the u.s. consulate in bengahzi was deliberate and organized. peter king of new york called on susan rice to resign as u.s. ambassador to the united nations after she initially claimed the attack on the consulate was part of the spontaneous protest after an anti-islamic video. yesterday paul ryan and john mccain slammed the administration's handling of the deadly attack. >> the response was slow, confused, inconsistent. they first said it was a youtube video and a spontaneous mob. we now know it was a planned terrorist attack if this was one tragic incident that would be a tragedy in itself. the problem is it's part of a bigger picture that the obama foreign policy is unraveling before our eyes on tv screens. >> i think it interferes with the depiction that the administration is trying to convey that al qaeda is on the wane, everything i
some romney advisers to keep the focus on the economy, some are saying romney should have a major foreign policy speech days after the debate. over the weekend, the white house was on the defensive after the friday's announcement that the deadly assault on the u.s. consulate in bengahzi was deliberate and organized. peter king of new york called on susan rice to resign as u.s. ambassador to the united nations after she initially claimed the attack on the consulate was part of the spontaneous...
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governor romney said he wouldn't. governor romney said it was tragic that we entered the iraq war. one of the reasons that al qaeda strengthened during the last decade was our focus in iraq. so we are happy to have this debate and we'll have it obviously -- >> was this an intelligence failure? >> no. this was an event obviously, a complex event. we're only talking about a matter of weeks here. so as information was arrived at, as determinations were made, that was shared with the american people. and i think again the focus needs to be how do we make sure that our facilities and ambassadors and our personnel are secure going forward. and that's what the focus is on. >> as you know, the chairman of the homeland security committee has called for susan rice to resign. >> she's done an excellent job for this country and this administration. >> ben ghazi is so bad that the fbi can't even go in and investigate. what about the fact that there are military operations to find ambassador stephens' killers? what is america doing to change the trajectory in libya? >> well, i'm not going to spe
governor romney said he wouldn't. governor romney said it was tragic that we entered the iraq war. one of the reasons that al qaeda strengthened during the last decade was our focus in iraq. so we are happy to have this debate and we'll have it obviously -- >> was this an intelligence failure? >> no. this was an event obviously, a complex event. we're only talking about a matter of weeks here. so as information was arrived at, as determinations were made, that was shared with the...
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romney. first to iowa. president obama is 49% to mitt romney's 5%. >>> and from the columbia dispatch--this has surrogates from both parties sangled today over who's better equipped to guide the economy over the next four years. >> the president hay has created 4 million new manufacturing jobs. he says he's going to reduce the debt. doesn't say how' goegsing to do it. let's be fair here, governor romney has laid out a vision and a direction for this country. let's hold the president to the same standard as well. >> first of all, we have a deficit plan, it's got health care savings. romney doesn't have a deficit plan. he's got a plan to cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires. he's got a 5 trilli$5 trillion. -- another $2 trillion in defense spending. >> just three days into the first presidential debate, meanwhile mitt romney is off to the trail. we have two reports, we begin with nbc's peter alexander, he's with the romney campaign in boston, with a good morning to you, peter. what are y
romney. first to iowa. president obama is 49% to mitt romney's 5%. >>> and from the columbia dispatch--this has surrogates from both parties sangled today over who's better equipped to guide the economy over the next four years. >> the president hay has created 4 million new manufacturing jobs. he says he's going to reduce the debt. doesn't say how' goegsing to do it. let's be fair here, governor romney has laid out a vision and a direction for this country. let's hold the...
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romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are sleeping in separate rooms. i'm joined by msnbc political analyst howard fineman and joy ann reid, managing editor of thegrio.com. more polling data that shows mitt romney trailing. let's check the hardball scoring board. according to a new fox news poll, president obama leads romney by five points among likely voters nationwide. 48% to 43%. catch that, the fox poll. highly significant there. let's go right now to howard on this question. it looks to me like this divorce papers are pretty much out there right now. all that you hear now is r
romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are...
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governor romney, the primary debater versus governor romney the presidential debater. how are they going to be different? >> well, i think if he does what he did in florida, if he goes on offense, then, you know, he'll be the same debater that he was toward the end of the primary season. and that's what he needs to do. if he gets defensive, then i think that's a bad thing. so i think he'll go on offense, though. he certainly has a lot of material to work with. >> what do you think we're talking about wednesday morning, brett o'donnell? are we talking about how great of a performance he had or are we saying agh, this thing is probably over? >> no, first of all i think these could be great debates. you have two very capable debaters heading into the debates. and i think we're going to come out and learn more about the president's policies and learn that it was the president who is responsible for the economic conditions of millions of americans are suffering through right now. >> brett, i was going to give you the last line. i can't let it end there. richard, is that the
governor romney, the primary debater versus governor romney the presidential debater. how are they going to be different? >> well, i think if he does what he did in florida, if he goes on offense, then, you know, he'll be the same debater that he was toward the end of the primary season. and that's what he needs to do. if he gets defensive, then i think that's a bad thing. so i think he'll go on offense, though. he certainly has a lot of material to work with. >> what do you think...
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bush if we vote for romney. >> how could the romney campaign, or how can the romney campaign, how can it distance itself from the ghost of g.w.? >> i think if they would have gone in and dealt with immediately and honestly from the beginning, they wouldn't have had a campaign that said, to try to pin the entire four years of the economy on president obama. they would know that average people understand, he came in with a huge burden, a collapsing economy, and they would have -- he would have said, look, the first two years, that was the problem of the president's predecessor. you can't blame him for that. but the last two years, that's obama's. there were ways for him to deal with it. but frankly, it was a very, very difficult legacy for, i think any republican, romney or anyone, to have to deal. >> the romney campaign said it wants to make the election about the economy, and initially it really tried to do that. but polls show that now americans, as you mentioned, tend to assign more blame to bush than to obama when it comes to that issue. 68% say bush should get a great deal or mode
bush if we vote for romney. >> how could the romney campaign, or how can the romney campaign, how can it distance itself from the ghost of g.w.? >> i think if they would have gone in and dealt with immediately and honestly from the beginning, they wouldn't have had a campaign that said, to try to pin the entire four years of the economy on president obama. they would know that average people understand, he came in with a huge burden, a collapsing economy, and they would have -- he...
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who has the most to lose, president obama or governor romney? >> certainly governor romney. the president ea's ahead. he's a good debater. this whole setting expectations by his team is very silly. he hasn't debated in a campaign recently, he's debated plenty. he knows hows to keep his cool on a national stage. the governor needs to turn the expectations around, and that's the problem he's having right now. he's got a lot of people saying, the debate's really going to change everything for him. it's his last chance. donors are going to go away if he doesn't do well. he's going to lose the support of establishment republicans who will start giving their money to senate candidates instead. it's a tremendous amount of pressure. so he's really got the expectations game that he's got to fulfill, and we'll see how he does. >> anne, this praise of mitt romney about an anecdote of being abandoned on a boat his hi grandkids. take a look and take a listen. >> i said, who's going to grab the rope? and i looked up, and there was mitt romney. so he pull ed me in, tied up th boat for me,
who has the most to lose, president obama or governor romney? >> certainly governor romney. the president ea's ahead. he's a good debater. this whole setting expectations by his team is very silly. he hasn't debated in a campaign recently, he's debated plenty. he knows hows to keep his cool on a national stage. the governor needs to turn the expectations around, and that's the problem he's having right now. he's got a lot of people saying, the debate's really going to change everything...
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romney's 47% remark. you're probably not going to want to hear this, rich, but let's play it. >> [ inaudible ] they believe they are victims. they believe the government has the responsibility to care for them. who believe that they're entitled to health care, food, housing, you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. so my job is not to worry about those people. >> i got to tell you, we've tossed this around with my production team. and there are few who don't think that this is one of the most damning ads out there. this is one that's going to stick around. how in the world? because you put these words to faces. rich, how does the romney camp counter this? >> i think you can't. you can't counter it. you just have to try to change the discussion. i mean, four years ago when the president then senator obama made that bone-headed remark about pennsylvanians he went on to win pennsylvania in the general election. so these things have sort of a half life. and we'll see whether it still
romney's 47% remark. you're probably not going to want to hear this, rich, but let's play it. >> [ inaudible ] they believe they are victims. they believe the government has the responsibility to care for them. who believe that they're entitled to health care, food, housing, you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. so my job is not to worry about those people. >> i got to tell you, we've tossed this around with my production team. and there are few who...
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mitt romney, a hypocrite. people see that gaffe. it is not that he is like ted kennedy said, he is not pro-choice. he is multiple choice. >> we are all political junkies but as ia great marketing tool. m marketing, you can just lie over and over and over. have enough money to lie and people will start believing it is true. >> frito-lay mastered this. i don't believe i can only eat one potato chip. that's where citizens united is a powerful tool. you can just lie, lie, lie. for example, this lie about the $719 billion the president is taking away from medicare beneficiaries -- >> it also feels like -- >> just keep saying it and it will be true. >> in addition to dishonesty and this flip-flopping and apparently lack of awareness about technology, it also feels like romney tends to move towards wherever he thinks there is power. i was just blown away. there is this moment where in a new web ad that the governor has where he does a cuddling up to the president that i want us to look at real quickly. >> president obama and i both care wi
mitt romney, a hypocrite. people see that gaffe. it is not that he is like ted kennedy said, he is not pro-choice. he is multiple choice. >> we are all political junkies but as ia great marketing tool. m marketing, you can just lie over and over and over. have enough money to lie and people will start believing it is true. >> frito-lay mastered this. i don't believe i can only eat one potato chip. that's where citizens united is a powerful tool. you can just lie, lie, lie. for...
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romney will repeal that. ryan says that too. it looked to me like that was working, that they were actually managing to sort of get to the president's left on medicare and attack him and say the president's going to cut your medicare, we're going to protect it. i don't know why it's not still working. >> here's why. so they've decided they're going to pick this fight on medicare. it's a bizarre fight they picked for the reasons you named. clearly they're the party that wants to shrink the entitlement state. you have to see what they say behind closed doors or read conservative blogs. we know what the conservative apparatus in the republican party thinks about the entitlement state. they want to say we're going to be more extravagant to you seniors. they made the mistake of picking a fight on an issue that the democrats have reputational capital built up over time. it's not sustainable. if democrats went out and convinced them that they were the party that would give tax cuts to the rich, it would not be possible. it's not credib
romney will repeal that. ryan says that too. it looked to me like that was working, that they were actually managing to sort of get to the president's left on medicare and attack him and say the president's going to cut your medicare, we're going to protect it. i don't know why it's not still working. >> here's why. so they've decided they're going to pick this fight on medicare. it's a bizarre fight they picked for the reasons you named. clearly they're the party that wants to shrink the...
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romney's 47% remark. let's play it. here it is. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has the responsibility to care for them, who believe that they're entitled to health care, and to food, to housing, to you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. and so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them. >> that is one tough ad. you're putting faces to those words. amie has the romney camp come up with any effective counter to it or is this going to be a theme for the next 38 days? >> i think it will be a theme for the next 38 days. they are trying to respond to it. you saw this week, he touted his health care law in massachusetts, which was a little awkward for him. but he's kind of showing that he does have an empathetic side. but meanwhile the obama campaign is also coming back. they're releasing new web ad this morning. they're slamming h
romney's 47% remark. let's play it. here it is. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has the responsibility to care for them, who believe that they're entitled to health care, and to food, to housing, to you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. and so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them....
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what the romney side needs is that they still have to persuade people that governor romney is the guy they should vote for. at the national level, that means they need to fix whatever has gone so wrong with their campaign message and they need to stop doing whatever it is that has turned so many people off to their candidate. when you ask voters whether they like this mitt romney guy, the answer is a very, very plain answer. no. his favorable ratings are in the low 40s. almost 10 points lower than the ratings for president obama. lower, even, than the famously unpopular former president george w. bush right now. swing state voters say they do not think that mitt romney cares about the needs and problems of people like them. some of mr. romney's numbers are just shockingly bad. i mean double check. shockingly bad. look at the percentage of swing state voters who say mitt romney's policies will favor the middle class. in florida it's 8%. in ohio it's 9%. in pennsylvania it's 9%. whatever the romney campaign has done to get themselves to this point, whether it's mr. romney's tax returns,
what the romney side needs is that they still have to persuade people that governor romney is the guy they should vote for. at the national level, that means they need to fix whatever has gone so wrong with their campaign message and they need to stop doing whatever it is that has turned so many people off to their candidate. when you ask voters whether they like this mitt romney guy, the answer is a very, very plain answer. no. his favorable ratings are in the low 40s. almost 10 points lower...
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mitt romney into a relatable guy. at romney events they have been playing that video from the rnc but then they bumped that in favor of the crazy clint eastwood thing. this video about his family, it very nice. nobody saw it but they're using it at their events now and they have young mitt romney on a beach in france with his love letter to ann written in the sand. you can understand why mitt romney spent his draft eligible years writing love letters to ann in france. it might be worth a pound of questions about how he avoided serving during the war. they've even got him talking about health reform in that's again. conservatives are so scared of him losing as badly as he's losing, they are not even squawking about it as they did when he talked about romney care last month. they are trying to make people dislike their candidate less. and then thurston strikes again. >> he pulled me in, he tied up the boat for me, he rescued me just as he's going to rescue this great country. >> at the national level, fairly or not, vot
mitt romney into a relatable guy. at romney events they have been playing that video from the rnc but then they bumped that in favor of the crazy clint eastwood thing. this video about his family, it very nice. nobody saw it but they're using it at their events now and they have young mitt romney on a beach in france with his love letter to ann written in the sand. you can understand why mitt romney spent his draft eligible years writing love letters to ann in france. it might be worth a pound...
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romney's got another problem. lots of candidates have been caught making embarrassing mistakes, but romney was caught saying something that he really believes. joining me now, john nichols. great to you have with us tonight. you think romney's comment is a gaffe like the ones we have seen from other candidates in the past that just have made the infamous highlight reel forever? >> i think we may have seen a game changer. you can't say that on the night it happens or the night it comes out. you got to watch over time. but what's significant is that the advantage that obama got as that began to lock in has continued. in fact, his advantage has tennten continued to grow. just in the last couple days analysts have moved almost all of the battleground states like pennsylvania or michigan now likely democratic states. >> down in wisconsin as well? >> absolutely. weep saw larry sabato, just moved four u.s. senate races from leans republican to toss-up. these are states like north dakota. i think there is an impact. i thi
romney's got another problem. lots of candidates have been caught making embarrassing mistakes, but romney was caught saying something that he really believes. joining me now, john nichols. great to you have with us tonight. you think romney's comment is a gaffe like the ones we have seen from other candidates in the past that just have made the infamous highlight reel forever? >> i think we may have seen a game changer. you can't say that on the night it happens or the night it comes...
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romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are sleeping in separate rooms. i'm joined by msnbc political analyst howard fineman and joy joy-ann reid, managing editor of thegrio.com. more polling data that shows mitt romney trailing. according to a new fox news poll, president obama leads romney by five points among likely voters nationwide. 48% to 43%. catch that, the fox poll. highly significant there. let's go right now to howard on this question. it looks to me like this divorce papers are pretty much out there right now. all that you hear now is romney doesn't really want to be stuc
romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are...
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romney. the obama campaign is hammering home who the real romney is and what he stands for. he's a candidate who has no problem writing off the country, something that this president refuses to do. >> i'm not fighting to create democrat or republican jobs, i'm creating jobs. i'm fighting to improve schools in the united states of america. i'm not fighting on behalf of rich values or poor values or 53% value. i'm fighting for american values. he's fighting for american values. but the other candidate, the man behind the mask, he's offering us a budget that takes care of the rich but leaves everyone else in the dust. >> show me your budget. i'll tell you what you've got. let's take a look at their budget. why are they doing it? well, they are doing it because they have to. and here's the reason they have to. they cannot possibly, possibly continue to add to the tax cuts of the super wealthy. >> that's what is behind the romney mask. that's what the next 39 days to the election are all about. and a special thank you to our fake president and mitt romney for helping us to predic
romney. the obama campaign is hammering home who the real romney is and what he stands for. he's a candidate who has no problem writing off the country, something that this president refuses to do. >> i'm not fighting to create democrat or republican jobs, i'm creating jobs. i'm fighting to improve schools in the united states of america. i'm not fighting on behalf of rich values or poor values or 53% value. i'm fighting for american values. he's fighting for american values. but the...
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i think romney will take hard shots. he may spend the whole 90 minutes blastinging away him aw hoping that something will stick. i think obama will play with him, block the blows, trying to keep his head clear so he will avoid getting hurt. it will start with both then staying cautious, not hard enough to register with the tens and millions watching. then it will happen, romney will deliver a prerehearsed sound bite, something about the economy. he said you do but hasn't. he expects the president to dep fend himself and when he does, romney will pounce. he will say that obama's not running against bush and get obama to pass the buck on the tough economic recovery and then land his sunday punch. i suppose president obama knows this is all coming and is preparing to deal with it. the good news is this. a month ago, all his
i think romney will take hard shots. he may spend the whole 90 minutes blastinging away him aw hoping that something will stick. i think obama will play with him, block the blows, trying to keep his head clear so he will avoid getting hurt. it will start with both then staying cautious, not hard enough to register with the tens and millions watching. then it will happen, romney will deliver a prerehearsed sound bite, something about the economy. he said you do but hasn't. he expects the...
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the best attack ad on romney is mitt romney. to pick up on michael and michelle's point, what is romney going to come with in the campaign to have a good showing? he can't talk about taxes with tacks being the lowest they have been in 50 years. he can't talk about medicaid and medicare because their policies are unpopular. he can't talk about foreign policy, he doesn't have anything. the only thing he can argue is that obama has not been a good steward of the economy, but as we know, obama has a very good answer to that. and that's on offense. then you think about what he has to do on defense. he's going to be on the defense on the 47%. he's going to be on defense on his tax question. i mean, this is a guy who doesn't have very much to work with at this point. so it's hard for me to see, even if he doesn't make a major gaffe, which he does on a weekly basis, even if he doesn't, what ammunition does he have to actually have a good showing? >> i'm told there are examples of elections turning on debates, president bush for example
the best attack ad on romney is mitt romney. to pick up on michael and michelle's point, what is romney going to come with in the campaign to have a good showing? he can't talk about taxes with tacks being the lowest they have been in 50 years. he can't talk about medicaid and medicare because their policies are unpopular. he can't talk about foreign policy, he doesn't have anything. the only thing he can argue is that obama has not been a good steward of the economy, but as we know, obama has...
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romney is a pretty good debater. whoever in the clip said there that romney has had 20 or whatever it is recent debates, that's true. during the primaries when romney needed to deliver a big knockout punch to newt gingrich and to rick perry, he managed to do it, and he did it very aggressively. so he knows what he's doing up there. obama needs to be on his toes. you know, i just think he can anticipate most of what romney is going to say, but he needs to have a few zingers of his own to make sure he gets his share of sound bites in the newscasts that follow. >> based on previous debate performances, how would you characterize governor romney's style versus the president's style? >> romney is good on the attack, i think. as i just indicated, i mean, when he needed to flash the knife against rick perry in that one debate i'm particularly thinking of, he really did it. he's good at that, and he's not going to back down. you know, a lot of this also comes down to interpersonal dynamics and how they play off each other an
romney is a pretty good debater. whoever in the clip said there that romney has had 20 or whatever it is recent debates, that's true. during the primaries when romney needed to deliver a big knockout punch to newt gingrich and to rick perry, he managed to do it, and he did it very aggressively. so he knows what he's doing up there. obama needs to be on his toes. you know, i just think he can anticipate most of what romney is going to say, but he needs to have a few zingers of his own to make...
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certainly not mitt romney. we've got people stationed, men and women, stationed in afghanistan and they're not talking about the war. you did a great segment on that last night. >> at least a long segment. 68 -- >> for good reasons. >> 68,000 americans who are really incredibly talented, incredible resources for our country, people in the prime of their lives risking their lives every day right now and in 2004, in that presidential campaign, we were at war and george w. bush and john kerry fought it out every day about the war. in 2008 we were at war, and barack obama and john mccain fought it out every day in that war. this week when the financial crisis was absolutely on fire, at that debate, they were talking about the wars. this year, president obama does bring it up, he does bring it up at most of his stump speeches, how he explains what he has done and planning on doing talking about the two wars. he doesn't have to say much more because he's speaking to an empty room. the romney campaign has no identifia
certainly not mitt romney. we've got people stationed, men and women, stationed in afghanistan and they're not talking about the war. you did a great segment on that last night. >> at least a long segment. 68 -- >> for good reasons. >> 68,000 americans who are really incredibly talented, incredible resources for our country, people in the prime of their lives risking their lives every day right now and in 2004, in that presidential campaign, we were at war and george w. bush...
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romney, ryan, romney, ryan. there we go. >> as the hour that will determine his destiny grows closer, mitt romney must find clear answers. >> the first ground rule i would say to mitt is be who you are. >> i'm running for office for pete sake. i can't have illegals. >> it's a mistake to somehow be clever. >> i'm not a bomb thrower. rhetorically or literally. >> i'm mitt romney, and that's also my first name. >> he has to be prepared to defend himself as the moderator and obama will come after him. >> the way the rules work here i get 60 seconds. anderson -- >> you knew you had illegal -- >> would you please wait. >> with mitt romney, is there ever such a thing as a crisis averted? >> i think as people look at his record and imagine him debating obama, obama is going to laugh at him. >> you ask me an entirely different question. >> now alex is out today on vacation on the planet of jupiter but did leave behind a special gift we on behalf of alex wagner want to congratulate ben smith on reaching 100,000 twitter fo
romney, ryan, romney, ryan. there we go. >> as the hour that will determine his destiny grows closer, mitt romney must find clear answers. >> the first ground rule i would say to mitt is be who you are. >> i'm running for office for pete sake. i can't have illegals. >> it's a mistake to somehow be clever. >> i'm not a bomb thrower. rhetorically or literally. >> i'm mitt romney, and that's also my first name. >> he has to be prepared to defend himself as...
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he'll stand in as mitt romney. one thing we're reporting is both sides trying to lower expectations heading into the debate on wednesday, which is key for both candidates, alex. >> for themselves and increasing them for the other guy. that's what they're doing right now. thank you so much. let's bring in the political power panel. jonathan kapart, and chris cofinus and jackie gingrich kushman, author and daughter of newt gingrich and former adviser to her father's presidential campaign. welcome to the throuee of you. five days is all mitt romney has before the debate. the politico article everybody is talking about today say this isn't the chair or ho hum convention or the leaked video or distorted polls or the message or mormonism. it's mitt. does he have enough time for a real game change? >> you know, five days before the first debate, 40 days before election day people go around the country already are starting to vote early voting in a bunch of states across the country. it's unclear whether there's enough tim
he'll stand in as mitt romney. one thing we're reporting is both sides trying to lower expectations heading into the debate on wednesday, which is key for both candidates, alex. >> for themselves and increasing them for the other guy. that's what they're doing right now. thank you so much. let's bring in the political power panel. jonathan kapart, and chris cofinus and jackie gingrich kushman, author and daughter of newt gingrich and former adviser to her father's presidential campaign....
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newmitt romney? >> it's very important. this is his second time to make an impression. the first time was during the republican convention. the second time is in a situation where he's going to be asked very specific, detailed policy questions and in fairness he gets a chance to put president obama on the defensive the but to sflan to the american people specifically what he wants. here's the unfortunate truth about this, chris. both presidential candidates, president obama and governor romney are smart individuals. this is going to be a very good debate, because both are policy wonks and they're not afraid to answer a detailed question. >> nera, this morning chuck todd said to be honest -- they're both smart men, but neither is a great debater. he thinks the vice presidential debate will be a lot more interesting. however, mitt romney has 20 primary debates under his belt and president obama has none this time around. if you look at history, the past four incumbent presidents have had a difficult ti
newmitt romney? >> it's very important. this is his second time to make an impression. the first time was during the republican convention. the second time is in a situation where he's going to be asked very specific, detailed policy questions and in fairness he gets a chance to put president obama on the defensive the but to sflan to the american people specifically what he wants. here's the unfortunate truth about this, chris. both presidential candidates, president obama and governor...
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he is quite close to mitt romney. he knew him before -- >> how about the fact, i was going to say, how about the fact today he will speak by phone to both. a world leader doing that -- >> that's a danger for him, i have known him a long time. he is always moving forward. the danger is that he can involve himself too demonstrably in the american election this time with the kinds of statements he has been making, positions he has been taking. he is imposing himself on what the american people need to decide for themselves. >> take it in the reverse, how often, you could say in not so friendly democracies, america over the years may have gotten involved in leadership elections, but in some of the most friendly allies, how often do american presidents do that? >> they generally stand back, let the american people make a decision. in fact, at this time which is a volatile time in that part of the world, what is also striking to me is that this gives president obama cover to some degree, not just on the iran issue. >> take
he is quite close to mitt romney. he knew him before -- >> how about the fact, i was going to say, how about the fact today he will speak by phone to both. a world leader doing that -- >> that's a danger for him, i have known him a long time. he is always moving forward. the danger is that he can involve himself too demonstrably in the american election this time with the kinds of statements he has been making, positions he has been taking. he is imposing himself on what the...
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romney 44. chuck? >> the one thing i've heard on this poll is democrats are arguing that northern virginia was under represented in the poll. that said, i mean we're talking a difference of a point or two. if you will. and it's sort of in the range of what you hear where virginia is anywhere from two to five points so the number was not surprising. >> chuck todd, david gregory, you look at all of these polls and, david, look at the fact, in ohio, even the romney people understand they're down six, seven, eight points. and they're down right now in north carolina, a state they were ahead in and not so long ago. it makes you think that newt gingrich is right, mitt romney needs to turn in a great performance in the first debate, or else the window starts closing. >> this is very clear. you get several big opportunities as a candidate to make your mark. the announcement of your running mate. your convention. and then the debates. and the reality is that mitt romney is not seized on those first two events.
romney 44. chuck? >> the one thing i've heard on this poll is democrats are arguing that northern virginia was under represented in the poll. that said, i mean we're talking a difference of a point or two. if you will. and it's sort of in the range of what you hear where virginia is anywhere from two to five points so the number was not surprising. >> chuck todd, david gregory, you look at all of these polls and, david, look at the fact, in ohio, even the romney people understand...